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Registered Voter Usergroup Irregularity

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Yesterday, at 2:00 pm SLT/PDT, there were 43 people in the Registered Voter group on this forum. Last night, the number was the same at about 7:45 pm SLT/PDT. Last night, there was an in-world group chat session that involved Explorer's registration and some question regarding whether the user followed the proper voter registration procedure. I know for a fact, that last night during that chat, Explorer was NOT in the group.

This morning, there are 44 people in the Registered Voter group, and Explorer Dastardly was added. I believe the membership needs a full explanation of how the rolls could be changed DURING an active election. This doesn't look like a technical glitch to me.
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Post on Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:44 pm  Keokipele Ansar

Gordon, you are indeed correct that one member was added to the roster during the course of the election.

As you recall from the in-world group chat, there were two members who were stating that they had registered to vote but were unable to do so (the group chat was initiated after a group notice was sent reminding members that the Election was in progress). In a private IM with one of the members in question, I determined that the request to join the user group was made well AFTER the election had started (3PM SLT yesterday, according to the member). I informed this member that unfortunately at that point voter registration had been closed and he/she would have to wait until registration reopened today.

After checking my records (a RL "journal" I keep at my computer) from my approval process (which included confirming membership in the in-world Second Pride Festival group, a review of the member's in-world profile to determine SL birth date and a review of the member's secondpride.com profile including join date), I determined that Explorer Dastardly had indeed requested to join the registered voter group on 11 October 2009 and that I had also approved the request. Explorer did follow the proper voter registration procedure. Consequently, I believe it was only fair to manually add her to the roster to allow her to vote.

In future, I will be double checking the roster at each approval to be certain that the name(s) of the requester immediately appears in the user group. If it does not, I can manually add the user at that time and contact our webmaster (Isaiah Tolsen) to contact Google support to determine what might be causing the issue. In my limited time as moderator of the Second Pride Registered Voters user group, this appears to be an isolated incident. Had I not kept a record of the requests to join the group and had not been able to confirm that Explorer had indeed registered to vote in due time, she would not have been added during the election; she would have been informed to register to vote following the election as the other member in question was asked to do.

Peace,
Keo

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Post on Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:45 pm  Guest

Keo, I appreciate your good intentions and I commend you for acting in good faith. However, I believe a "journal" kept by your computer is insufficient in this case. There are better ways to verify when the request came in, when it was approved, and an email sent to the user. This is a phpBB forum, so there should be verifiable records in the database to include when the user made the request, when it was approved, and when an email was sent as confirmation.

I checked SecondPride.com's IP address and it's located in France, which means phpBB is either hosted on a server located at a Google data center, or the software is running from a members server. Which is it?

Thank you for responding to this issue.

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Post on Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:27 pm  Rimpoche Kiama

Dear Second Pride Members,

A question has come up regarding a voter irregularity that I'd like to add some clarity to.

On October 8, I received an e-mail from Shawn Mission advising me of the following: He had received a message from Explorer Dastardly via the Second Pride avatar which read:

hello admin.,
please reset my name: explorer dastardly and password.
I messed it up the other night and now I cannot log in, and I wish to vote.

I sent and inworld IM to Explorer suggesting that the account be deleted/recreated, and then suggested Explorer contact Isaiah Tolsen as the webmaster for further support.

Isaiah did so, but the system apparently did not recognize Explorer as a voter. In this case, I think that Keo acted responsibly. He had to decide between upsetting people with the idea that some kind of voter irregularity had occured, as you saw, or contend with Explorer not having a chance to cast a vote and deal with an issue of limitations. Isaiah as webmaster will have a clearer explaination of what occured, and if I've gotten any of the facts incorrectly I know he'll snap me right. :O)

Isaiah is currently working on making the web-page and forums more efficient and bug-free. I understand that there are important issues of concern that come up from time to time, but I would ask that in this period of transition we all approach this with some patience. Anden and Isaiah have both been swamped with real life issues, and they're preparing to take their holidays shortly; given the pressures they're under, I think that they're doing a fine job, and given time I know that progress will be posted through meeting minutes and on the web page.

I've only been involved with Pride in SL for a few months, and as such, have not been party to the issues that came up in the past: I've been in dialogue lately with people who have been, and can understand given our history why there is so much concern.

Be assured that our intentions are to keep things transparent, honest, and up front. If we make a mistake, we will own up to it and learn from it.

I encourage our membership to get involved by registering to become part of the voter pool. We did have record turn outs, but I know we can do better. As was stated previously, I was elected on 22 votes. I'd like to see the next chair elected with at least 100.

This year we need to focus on getting interest back in Pride, and continue to get the confidence of the LGBT population in SL. We are currently working on an initiative to hold a "summit" of LGBT groups in Second Life in the attempts of finding some common ground and perhaps forming an "LGBT Alliance". Soon, members will have the opportunity to select through elections chairs to sit on the Adhocc committee which will look at our Charter, and help to fine tune the document. Our October event will soon be taking place, and we will continue to work to raise donations for Amnesty International USA. We're investigating our options in terms of the Lab's new community partnership program and how that will effect our place in SL in terms of health services and a possible LGBT Portal. There is tremendous good happening in our organization, and with this kind of growth hiccups and pains are bound to happen. I would ask the membership to grant us patience as we are doing the best we can with what we have. I would also encourage individuals that find themselves in the zeal of Pride to translate this into real life Pride Organizations in your communities. It is my sincerest hope that rather than become absorbed in the virtual world, we will be able to spawn and direct future activists in the real world, all over the world. The United States is undergoing tremendous change and growth, and we need to, all of us all over the world, direct our vision, our thoughts, and our prayers to the American LGBT Community who is currently fighting desperately for equality. Support with your finances and by volunteering your local community organizations, mobilize, and make a difference. Because the real world is what really counts. At the end of the day, you can turn this life off. Your real life will always be waiting for you.

In Gratitude,

Rimpoche Kiama
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Last edited by Rimpoche Kiama on Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:28 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Please please, santa bring me a spell chequer.)

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Post on Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:24 pm  Doc Spad

Nicely said Rim!!!!!

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Post on Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:42 am  Guest

Rimpoche Kiama wrote:
On October 8, I received an e-mail from Shawn Mission advising me of the following: He had received a message from Explorer Dastardly via the Second Pride avatar which read:

hello admin.,
please reset my name: explorer dastardly and password.
I messed it up the other night and now I cannot log in, and I wish to vote.

I sent and inworld IM to Explorer suggesting that the account be deleted/recreated, and then suggested Explorer contact Isaiah Tolsen as the webmaster for further support.


Rimpoche,

I was almost willing to let this issue go because, after reading Keo's remarks, it was clear to me that he only acted in good faith in restoring this person's voting privileges. However, you've shed more light on things, and that's a good thing. It's now clear to me that you directly contributed to the issue by needlessly micromanaging the situation. Respectfully, this entire issue could have been avoided had you simply referred the user to Isaiah instead of suggesting she delete and recreate her account.

If a user can't logon to a site, the problem is almost always a forgotten or mistyped username or password. There is a "I forgot my password" link directly below the password box on the logon screen, and it's purpose is for these kinds of situations.

If it were me that had given such poor advice to a user, I would be putting together an apology. Thank you for helping me make sense of this unfortunate situation.

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